2018
@ StevenX: what rows were you riding these B&Ms in that you had bad times? Rougarou is a front row coaster, as well as diamondback. Gatekeeper's long trains and intense valleys cause the rattle. Riding GK up front is far smoother, but I have friends that still argue the back. Valravn is fun front row, on either far end. My honest least favorite of the bunch is raptor. I rode steel vengeance a few times when it was 1 train and no mcbr trimming. That was nutso-amazing.
Still think Hyperion looks ugly, however it looks really damn fun. First hill looks like insane ejector air..
@ Kadske Rougarou was back row, can't remember with Valravn, Gatekeeper was back and second back, Raptor was back and Diamondback I was all over - I preferred the back (as I generally do). Just surprising that so many of them were a little rattly, at least at the back.
@ StevenX: yeah I did rougarou in back last month, then front right after. Back is a bit viscous. For front: the thrust/accel forces and lack of headbang make it awesome, and really let you appreciate layout; especially with the visuals the floorless style offers. It is all around far better as a floorless than it was a standup, even if some of the transitions seem a bit odd looking. The heartlines are near enough to each other anyway. I've learned to adjust my backrow mentality. Front row has been my favorite for most rides now. I just got back from KI today, too; so I have those coasters fresh on the brain. (Park was empty, rode most coasters 3-4 times, tried in different rows to see G-force/comfort differences).
Personally, I enjoyed diamondback immensely more in the back than in the front.
The CP B&M rides are all better in the front though - Gatekeeper was my favorite of the bunch, Rougarou was solid, and raptor was good, but I've never been one to really enjoy inverted coasters.
B&M Inverts are really strange. They are very hit or miss I feel like. It seems like the oversized ones, maybe minus Banshee, like Alpengeist, Montu, and Katun look really great. But, for the midsized ones, they are not at all comparable. Afterburn and Raptor are amazing, but I think that Silver Bullet and Patriot are super lame. I just think as the Inverted coaster has evolved, it has really fit into the good or bad category pretty clearly. It's sad cause it is one of the best kind of riding experiences...
Man I miss Dragon's Challenge/Dueling Dragons.
The layout indeed looks more like a dive coaster layout. However, I really like it. The whole new area looks really good!
The pullout of the drop and the entrance to the airtime hill feels a little weird though.
Lmao what, the worst layout? It looks like B&M is finally confident with its wing, and this layout is far more punchy than the previous ones!
^ Yeah there's like a weird 'flatter' section in between the two. Like they moved the airtme hill to line up with the water manually.
It Looks so much better then Flug.
I Love the Low to the Ground !
AS King describes, it really Looks Like they use more Potential
Look at that twisted airtime Hill which Banks so late.
At least it looks better than swarm
Yeah don't get how that could be even remotely considered a bad layout. Short? Definitely, but looks super fun from beginning to end.
Definitely a great layout. I think that they did a great job with it considering the size of the ride and I really like the surrounding area.
ThatFlyerGuy1 posted on July 6th, 2018
Probably the worst Wing layout to date.
Looks better than Swarm which is your number 1 lol
I'm gonna be honest this looks like it's one of, if not the best wing coasters. Worst layout my ass.
I love how this thing looks. After the zero g roll it just 100% dies, though.
Looks like a fun layout. Its unique from former wing coasters.
This looks like one of the better wing coaster layouts. Sure, it's very short, but what it does in that short amount of time is very good.
Rode it about six times today in various seats. This ride is solid. The elements are paced perfectly, it has more g’s than flug der deamonen and especialy when it warmed up in the evening it packed a mean punch. Saw stars at the end of the helix, a feet only monster managed on me so far. Great great ride!
Ok. But Swarm is forceless and lame. End of argument right there, if you ask me.
ThatFlyerGuy1 posted on July 7th, 2018
if you could take Flying Fish or any other Mack Rides Blauer Enzian layout and add some intense and dark theming to it, that has the capability to be thrilling
yes because giving a family coaster "intense" theming makes it scary
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Oh I love this, where's the popcorn when you need it?
I mean force does mean everything. If you asked me to compare GateKeeper to I305... Well, there's simply no comparison there. And "intense" theming isn't really an actual method of creating thrill.
looks like a life-size HotWheels car.